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May. 12th, 2008 @ 12:26 pm Well the day has finally come.
I have always been completely insistent that I would not drive a minivan. We have borrowed a minivan before, and realized we were not 'minivan people'. My parents had 3 kids and a cottage we went to every weekend. A station wagon did them just fine. I've become partial to the Volvo XC70 or the Audi A4. Not cheap, but we wouldn't be looking at new. Hubby was fully on board, voicing many of the same opinions for many years.

That was apparently before we actually had a child. Since Miss V arrived, there has been an erosion of his position. First he talked to mechanic friends who told him that Volvo's weren't the cars they once were. That sure the safety ratings were still there (my #1), but they just weren't the same workhorse car they once were, and they had rather large repair bills.

Then he actually measured our dogs. He realized the sheer volume they occupy. This was quickly followed by several excursions (day) with Miss V. He also measured the sheer volume of the accompanying baby 'stuff'. He now firmly believes that dogs + baby = no room for things like food and our clothes.

Throw into the mix my desire to go for another round of IVF. He is no where near on board with that, but has selected it for use in his arguments. Now we are (I am) looking at 2 carseats, two heaps of baby stuff, two dogs.

Said erosion culminated in us looking at a used van on Friday night. Before I get into the description, I will also note that I missed/forgot about girlie poker in order to look at the van, it's really and truly over isn't it?

It's a Toyota Sienna, one our mechanic friend is partial too, again making it harder to convince hubby to look at other cars. It is in great condition, other than the air conditioner not working, but that is something we were warned about and hubby has the answer on how to fix that. It is a 2000, with 150k km (just under 100k miles), nothing really for a Toyota. There isn't any more I can say about it, it's a freaking minivan! It's going to the shop this week for the inspection, and then I'm fairly certain it will follow us home.

I will be spending the next week scouring ads for a decently-priced XC70 or A4, and accompanying roof-top storage in a last ditch effort to stave off the minivan, but I believe it may be too late. I'm well on my way to mom pants and easy listening radio.
Who does she think she is?
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From:dbaxdevilsfan
Date:May 12th, 2008 05:42 pm (UTC)
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Hmmmmm, 100,000 in 8 years? That's approximately 12,500 miles per year. If you are seriously considering it, have your mechanic friend check the transmission. Also, ask for any maintenance paperwork, so you can determine how often oil was changed, etc.

What the hell am I saying? You probably know all this already. :)

Ready for another baby, are ya? You might be able to get pregnant without the IVF. It happens quite often that #2 is easier to conceive without help. Good luck!
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From:neeroc
Date:May 13th, 2008 03:42 am (UTC)
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Ya, these guys were totally meticulous about record keeping, and they always brought it to the dealership, so its great for records.

Thanks! I was ready for another baby before V arrived! Sad to say, but we need the doctors to get anywhere, nothing like a bit more stress and pressure in the mix *g*
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From:running5k2day
Date:May 12th, 2008 05:49 pm (UTC)
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HoRRay! A family van. A mini-van! HoRRay!
I've been a member of the Mini-van Club since the twins arrived.
I had a Saturn Vue (little SUV) and soon realized it wasn't going to do the job.
We ended up with the Saturn Van. I like it but recently I leased a Kia & a Toyota mini-van.
I loved the Kia! It's got so much room and airbags all the way to the very end. It was great on gas and had excellent visibility. The storage space and headspace was most excellent! Left me wishing I had a Kia.

PS-you might want a van with a DVD system. My girls love it now that they are 2 and have favorite movies/shows. Makes long trips bearable.
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From:neeroc
Date:May 13th, 2008 03:39 am (UTC)
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I can imagine. Actually, I think just about everyone I know with twins gets a minivan when the kids are little.

And about the DVDs - what, no 'mom, she's touching me' 'mom, she's on my side!'

hehe - good times.
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From:shannon_elaine
Date:May 12th, 2008 08:26 pm (UTC)
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I drive a minivan. I don't wear mom pants and I listen to Otep, ICP, and Marilyn Manson. And by the way, I love my van. It's a 2007 Dodge Grand Caravan and it's awesome.
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From:neeroc
Date:May 13th, 2008 03:38 am (UTC)
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That's the other one he's currently looking at - that's one huge van! We find out Thursday whether it's worth us buying or not...
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From:shannon_elaine
Date:May 13th, 2008 03:46 am (UTC)
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I wouldn't say it's huge! It's certainly nowhere near the size of a regular van. It gets fabulous gas mileage too. 30-330 mpg. We drove almost 400 miles on the last tank. The car doesn't even do that! And it seats 7 people. And still has plenty of storage. I really do like it alot.
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From:piknik
Date:May 13th, 2008 02:29 pm (UTC)
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We've had a minivan a couple of different times in the last few years, and they are definitely the most functional for a family of babies and dogs. You know our first set of twins, yes? The dogs? Yeah, they're likely as big as yours (although not as "fluffy"), and they fit nicely in the back, with the third row folded down, the dudes went in the middle row, and then us up front. We did have to have a Thule box up top, to hold all the baby crap, but that was just when we had the dogs in back. Plus it's low, making it easier to hoist strollers in and out (especially the double stroller). The Sienna has 4WD, which would be good in winter. Plus a minivan has a low floor and high ceiling, allowing you to stand (hunched over) inside, buckling children in when it's raining, snowing, etc.

I have to start a list of things I never thought I'd do before having kids. It would include: driving a minivan, stepping foot into "Build-A-Bear" for any reason, and having a life ruled by another person's bathroom habits.
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